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Anyone have one of these Master Cylinder Proportioning valve combos

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#1 ·
While the engine is out on my 64 I converted it to a dual bowl drum master cylinder, but while I'm waiting for my engine I had the thought that if I ever want to go disc there it no better time to do the plumbing than right now. This has me looking at disc brake kits and I'm not real excited about the adjustable proportioning valves so this master cylinder fixed proportioning valve combo has caught my attention. I like how compact it is, and it won't require drilling holes and mounting a proportioning valve and bending even more lines from the master cylinder. Has anyone used this setup? if so whats your thoughts/opinion.

 
#2 ·
It's all in the title...... "universal."
One size fits all is usually not a good thing with cars.
In my opinion this fits in that category.

ex-Global West GM
1991-1995
 
#3 ·
Why would you not want an adjustable proportioning valve? As cars get modified with different springs, aluminum heads/intakes, different shocks and etc, the weight balance and weight transfer characteristics change. I like being able to adjust my brakes to react to my setup. If a fixed proportioning valve works properly on a modified car, it's likely dumb luck.
 
#4 ·
Its interesting that so often people do brake upgrade kits on cars from places like Baer, Wilwood and they don't include adjustable proportioning valves, so is it necessary? I don't doubt that if you're a guy GT289 thats into racing and suspension that they can be tuned to give the best results. I'm just a guy thats wanting to install factory KH front discs to my 64 and going with the K.I.S.S.
 
#7 ·
While the engine is out on my 64 I converted it to a dual bowl drum master cylinder, but while I'm waiting for my engine I had the thought that if I ever want to go disc there it no better time to do the plumbing than right now. This has me looking at disc brake kits and I'm not real excited about the adjustable proportioning valves so this master cylinder fixed proportioning valve combo has caught my attention. I like how compact it is, and it won't require drilling holes and mounting a proportioning valve and bending even more lines from the master cylinder. Has anyone used this setup? if so whats your thoughts/opinion.

Which master is the one they are providing?
What is bore size?
Are there residuals in either port?
If so which, 2 Pound or 10 Pound residual or combination?
Push Rod clip ring provisions (Machined to clip in)
The Proportioning Valve--A GM repo?
Can you install a booster with this setup?
 
#8 ·
*It's a ford disc/drum master cylinder in 1 inch bore.
*Pushrod is a stock 65 pushrod so I can run the more modern brake light switch. No clip on it
*I believe that proportioning valve is a GM repo
*I can't answer the booster part but I don't want one and won't ever.
 
#10 ·
I am running rear drums. I can't answer the master cylinder brand. Many places sell the same setup and they sell a disc/drum and a separate disc/disc so I assume the difference is residual valves.
 
#11 ·
The master cylinder in my car is a 67 drum/drum from the auto parts store. I considered just buying this master and proportioning valve combo.
 
#12 ·
Basic concept---Have the suppliers answer the questions on the parts you are inquiring about. If you call the supplier on these "will fit" parts/systems and you get a DAA--DAA-I'm not sure, then you will need to sort out the variances on your own.
Not saying this will not work, just have them help you in the install situations--Which there will be.
 
#13 ·
I've had 2 different Ford style proportioning valves on my car over the last couple of years. One from eBay and one from NPD, and they looked identical and worked great util they started leaking less than a year after installation. I'm using a Wilwood manual valve now. China vs USA.
 
#17 ·
Can I ask what leaks? Does the brass housing crack or something? It doesn't look like there is really any other place for it to just start leaking.

I went the "GM-style" disc/drum combination valve. $28 and used existing bolt holes. View attachment 786495
Can I ask why you're running a residual valve with it as well? Didn't want to change the master cylinder?

That looks ok BUT if you are not going to go stock K/H style valve and tubing I like the look of the BAER Remaster set up more,plenty of options on sizing and the valve can go under the master....... 15/16" Remaster Left Port Black Anodized 6801272LP - Baer Brakes
I'm just wondering you said since I don't want to go with a stock K/H "style" valve, does that mean someone repos them?
 
#16 ·
While the engine is out on my 64 I converted it to a dual bowl drum master cylinder, but while I'm waiting for my engine I had the thought that if I ever want to go disc there it no better time to do the plumbing than right now. This has me looking at disc brake kits and I'm not real excited about the adjustable proportioning valves so this master cylinder fixed proportioning valve combo has caught my attention. I like how compact it is, and it won't require drilling holes and mounting a proportioning valve and bending even more lines from the master cylinder. Has anyone used this setup? if so whats your thoughts/opinion.

That looks ok BUT if you are not going to go stock K/H style valve and tubing I like the look of the BAER Remaster set up more,plenty of options on sizing and the valve can go under the master....... 15/16" Remaster Left Port Black Anodized 6801272LP - Baer Brakes
 
#20 ·
Is there any reason this couldn't just be plumbed into the rear lines? seems like it would be a quick, easy, clean, way to the job.

 
#23 ·
As others have mentioned, adjusting the adjustable proportioning valve is not a difficult procedure. In my opinion there are two options:
  1. a stock proportioning valve that was original to your exact application (including year, engine, brakes)
  2. an adjustable proportioning valve
The K.I.S.S. principle is a good one, but keep also in mind what Einstein said: Make things as simple as possible, but not simpler :)
 
#24 ·
As others have mentioned, adjusting the adjustable proportioning valve is not a difficult procedure. In my opinion there are two options:
  1. a stock proportioning valve that was original to your exact application (including year, engine, brakes)
  2. an adjustable proportioning valve
The K.I.S.S. principle is a good one, but keep also in mind what Einstein said: Make things as simple as possible, but not simpler :)
What is the best way to adjust the Proportioning valve? I have been trying to get one adjusted, and I don‘t feel any difference no matter what setting I use.
 
#29 ·
I have a PV-2 combination valve and it works perfectly. I really don't like the look of the thing mounted on the bracket hanging under the master cylinder with the mess of lines. Looks like no fun to service the master cylinder when it fails. My PV-2 valve is mounted very similar to Woodchucks on the inner fender using one bolt in the original location on my 1970. For the price of the Speedway item, you could buy this Classic Performance PV-2 Classic Performance Brake Proportioning Valves | Summit Racing and this RAYBESTOS MC36440 and almost have enough money left to buy this: Eastwood On-Car Flaring Tool for 3/16” Brake Lines.