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No Brake Fluid to Driver Side Front Caliper

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So I finally decided to clean up my brake line setup as I got tired of how hodge-podge it looked even though it worked just fine. I have manual disc/drum setup. I ditched the factory block and manual proportioning valve and picked up a new distribution block w/proportion valve assembly from NPD.
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Pretty much a bolt in with some minor line bending needed as this was originally designed for Power Disc/Drum setup, not manual disc/drum which is what I'm running. So I got everything replumbed and hooked up, start the bleeding process and when I get to drivers side caliper to start bleeding, I have 0 fluid coming out. Thought it might be the caliper so i disconnected the brake line and had my daughter push the pedal, nothing, no fluid coming out. Thinking maybe the brake line was plugged up I disconnected it from the distribution block and depressed the pedal again, nothing, no fluid at all coming out of the port in the block for the left front brakes. All my others were fine. Any ideas? Could I have a bad distribution block?
 
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You can see that it's a pretty simple T connection to the front brakes at the valve. There would have to be a passage blocked very near the outlets. If it is defective, it's a bad defect. There a differential piston that slides to activate the warning light switch. My warning light will be on (if the key is on) when bleeding or the master cylinder is bad. But the piston has always corrected itself on my cars. It's possible to unscrew the plastic switch and check the position of the piston. No fluid will leak if you check it. The piston is sealed in with o-rings.
 
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Here's a pic of my 67. This setup is called the "very late 67"set up.
So you're saying the "front most port" which is for left front disc, at the block no fluid comes out?
Since the right side is right under left side poke a paperclip (or similar) into left side block port to feel if anything blocking it.
Worst case, There is access brass screw on cap at opposite end of the block. Don't remember if I ever did it, but with the cap off, the shuttle inside can be tapped or pushed back out. Then it's a clear shot to front of block to see thru for blockage.
 

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Here's a pic of my 67. This setup is called the "very late 67"set up.
So you're saying the "front most port" which is for left front disc, at the block no fluid comes out?
Since the right side is right under left side poke a paperclip (or similar) into left side block port to feel if anything blocking it.
Worst case, There is access brass screw on cap at opposite end of the block. Don't remember if I ever did it, but with the cap off, the shuttle inside can be tapped or pushed back out. Then it's a clear shot to front of block to see thru for blockage.
Yep, that's exactly what I'm saying. No fluid is pushed out the port of the block for the driver side brakes. I pulled the line out and pumped the pedal and nothing came out of that port, not even a trickle. I'm tempted to just plug that port off and put a T in the one for the right side brakes to save me a headache of having to pull it out. If I end up pulling it out, i'll go with
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. Going to tinker around with it some more today.
 
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Lord knows who manufactured the block. I suppose there's a REMOTE possibility (note I say "remote" as in "grasping at straws") that they made it like a GM block and the end of the shuttle is somehow blocking the port. I think, at this point in the game, I'd be pulling the switch to look at the position of the shuttle and, if moved forward be pulling the front line to see if I could push it back (may require loosening a rear line) and locking it in "neutral" and then seeing if I got fluid from the front.
 
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Here's a video that will give the basic idea of how a differential valve works. The valve in the video is for a GM style valve that is often used in conversions. It's a bit different from Ford's, but a good example. If the piston has moved it should be simple to test the switch with a multimeter or look at the warning light on the dash if it's functional. It seems like you could remove the whole metering valve and shine a flashlight through the ports. There's probably nothing wrong with your new valve.
 
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My thought,
IF the shuttle was "blocking the left front port (which is front most port) you also wouldn't have any fluid coming out of right hand side port which is front bottom, which you said was ok. IF that shuttle was all the way forward, NO fluid would be coming out of either front port.
Poke insde that port to feel if any obstruction. Or as mentioned unscrew back cap and push shuttle out and inspect.
 
#15 ·
My thought,
IF the shuttle was "blocking the left front port (which is front most port) you also wouldn't have any fluid coming out of right hand side port which is front bottom, which you said was ok. IF that shuttle was all the way forward, NO fluid would be coming out of either front port.
That's assuming the cavity in the block is the same diameter as the shuttle. If there is room for fluid to flow AROUND the shuttle between the inlet and right (bottom) outlet but the shuttle is covering the orifice to the left front the symptoms would be as described. Without sawing the block in half it's hard to speculate.
 
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I gave up trying to get that new block to work. I went back with my old one and just cleaned up how I had my lines run so now it looks really nice and clean and my brakes work!!
 
#23 ·
You ditched the new distribution block that you got from NPD?
Your brakes worked to begin with....... just sayin'
And if you now have a non-adjustable proportioning valve, you actually went backwards in
vehicle dynamic performance AND cash.

ex-Global West GM
1991-1995
 
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You ditched the new distribution block that you got from NPD?
Your brakes worked to begin with....... just sayin'
And if you now have a non-adjustable proportioning valve, you actually went backwards in
vehicle dynamic performance AND cash.

ex-Global West GM
1991-1995
Oldie but a goodie
 
#25 ·
yeah, i plan on getting into that new valve, probably after the holidays. It's also leaking at one of the hardline inverted flare fittings for the rear proportional valve so I have that to deal with too.