My '68 coupe has riveted-on VIN tags on the drivers door,
This is meaningless, and says so right on it. It was for warranty info for the dealer.

and at the front of the dash pad on the passenger side,
This is the legit chassis VIN.

and both match the stamped VIN on the top of the driver side fender apron - although you have to take the fender off to prove this because the VIN stamping does not line up with cutaway in the fender.
True.

Is there anywhere else on my car I can find a VIN# ? What's all this about underneath the passenger side fender apron?
Also true.

 

My '68 coupe has riveted-on VIN tags on the drivers door,
This is meaningless, and says so right on it. It was for warranty info for the dealer.

and at the front of the dash pad on the passenger side,
This is the legit chassis VIN.

and both match the stamped VIN on the top of the driver side fender apron - although you have to take the fender off to prove this because the VIN stamping does not line up with cutaway in the fender.
True.

Is there anywhere else on my car I can find a VIN# ? What's all this about underneath the passenger side fender apron?
Also true.

Thanks for your time, but none of that addresses my question.

 

You sound good to go since the dash vin is the legal one on a '68 and up. The ones on the inner fenders just help show they haven't been messed with (which is always nice). I have seen the passenger inner fender stamped either in front of or behind the shock tower, but you would have to remove the finder to see them usually on that side.

 

Ok, thanks, I already have the fender off; I'll go have another look and see if I can find this one.

 

Don't mean to thread jack but I've got my door vin and 2 fender apron stamps. I never got my dash vin and I replaced one of the fender aprons and removed the fender apron with the VIN (drivers side front).

What should I do about this? Can I get in trouble not having the dash VIN? And if so, how do I get a new dash VIN? Can I get one from Marti? Also, I don't necessarily feel comfortable cutting my VIN out of the old apron and implanting it into my new apron as I've heard this is illegal.

All my intentions are good. I'm doing a V8 swap but despite having a '67 V8 parts car I'm still planning on leaving the original VIN in my '68.

 

No, you will not get in trouble for not having the dash VIN.

I have appraised in the last year a 68 Mustang that was imported into Canada and was physically inspected by the US border patrol and the RCMP at import and neither had a problem with the missing dash VIN. Both were interested in only seeing the VIN stamped into the driver's fender apron. The insurance company also was only concerned that the VIN was correct under the fender.

I also have appraised:
A 1947 Chevrolet Fleetmaster convertible that was imported without a VIN 10 years ago.

A 1964 Citroen 2CV without a VIN.

A 1947 Willy's coupe without a VIN.

A 1958 Austin Healey without a VIN.

The list can go on but my point is that this happens occasionally and it is not a problem unless you make it a problem.

Another common occurrence are cars with a registration/title that have an incorrect VIN. The oldest car I have caught was a Canadian built 1915 Ford Model T Touring that has had its VIN officially wrong for 96 years. When ever I catch these I get them corrected. A 1966 Ford Galaxie convertible I appraised a month ago and was just imported from the states had its VIN number wrong. It was wrong in the states, imported and registered here with an incorrect VIN. It was not caught by any of the inspections. I caught it because I always look for it. All these cases are almost always incorrectly reading a number. A 5 becomes a 6. A 3 become an 8, etc. The 1915 Model T was a 3 that got transposed as an 8.

Our officers of the law have more important things to do than be concerned about innocently missing VIN's or innocently wrong registrations. My friend in the auto fraud unit agrees with me. In fact he gave me my opinion.

 

No, you will not get in trouble for not having the dash VIN.

That might be true in our 51st state. However, it could get you in trouble in the other 50 depending on who you talk with because it is the "legal" VIN.

Not all the DMV people know all the rules, especially for older cars.

 

wont get it registered in NY that way.

 

How are the other VIN stampings on the 2 other aprons?

If they are fine I would not worry about that apron but I would keep it.

Some people get so anal about this and lose sight of the fact that it only REALLY matters if there is intent to deceive. Most of our cars are run of the mill cars where there is nothing to prove. So go along and have fun deceiving the next buyer of your C code Mustang

If your car was an R code or K code or any other rare VIN then, yes, the car better have a legit VIN on it but for your A code or C code, etc it doesn't matter. A Shelby without its legit VIN is not a Shelby since that is what makes the car what it is.

There are a lot of cars running out there without a VIN. Many hotrods, many of the very old cars. Many have been involved in accidents or rust years ago and lost them.

It is better to have the VIN on the vehicle but for most it is not any big deal since they are relatively cheap cars or trucks.

 

I may be all wet here, but this piece of Swiss cheese seriously looks like a 67 to me, which means the VIN should be on this panel.

 

There's VINs on the other two engine bay VIN locations for a '68. And 2+2GT, I think you might be right.
I noticed when removing that fine piece of swiss cheese that it seemed as if someone had replaced that panel before. There was a lot of loose welds on it, it seemed as if someone had gone after it by brazing the metal together. This has got to be the case as I was amazed by the fact that this apron was rusted worse than the (typically worse) passenger battery apron.

I'm 99% sure but I'm going to go back down to my barn and check all the VINs again. I'll let you guys know what I find.

 

2+2GT it turns up you're right, the panel is from a '67. I had to scrape back about 3 coats of paint to discover the VIN code.
Check out what it brought up:
Warranty Number: 7T02C8183

Year: 7 1967
Plant: T Metuchen, NJ
Body Series: 02 2+2 Fastback
Engine: C 289 2v V8
Unit: 8183 8183


Also I realized my other remaining VIN was on the battery apron I removed. I thought there was a third VIN in the engine bay but I can't find it.
So right now my only remaining VIN is on the door. Should I be concerned now that I only have 1 VIN number left (that being the door tag)? Lol

 

You won't get it registered (or inspected) in MY state, either, without some hassle. For starters, you're missing 2 digits from the sequential serial number, there are six, total. The second thing is that the VIN identifies the vehicle as a 1967 and is the location where the LEGAL VIN is located for that year. I'm guessing that VIN doesn't match any of the documents you have in hand. That's a problem. The door data tag is of no consequence as it's a) not a legal VIN and b) doors can easily come from another vehicle.

The last hidden vin will be farther rearward on the driver's side apron or shock tower. Hopefully it matches the one farther forward or you have a heap of issues. In the end, you'll probably end up with a State-issued VIN.

 

1968 VIN number plate

We have a 1968 GT/CS that is missing the stamped VIN plate on the dash. We have the door plate, title and other proof. Is there anyone that can stamp a new VIN plate?

 

We have a 1968 GT/CS that is missing the stamped VIN plate on the dash. We have the door plate, title and other proof. Is there anyone that can stamp a new VIN plate?

Don't know of anybody who does or, legally, can. You'll probably end up with a State DMV-assigned ID number.

 

flclassics has revived a 4.5 year old thread.

 

Damn it!

:bricks:

 

So here is my question. I have acquired a 68 Gt convertible. The front clip was completely replaced. So the door tag and the fender VIN's dont match. It is an early 68, so there isnt a dash VIN. What do I do? The title matches the door plate VIN. Am i good?

Also, Can a GT have a C code motor?

Thanks in advance.

 

It is my understanding that all 68's had dash vin plates on the passenger side. The GT option for small blocks that year required a four barrel carb.

 

uh oh, i might need to start another thread to verify originality....

 

No C code can be a GT in 1968. The door tag means nothing . . forget about it. All 68s should have the dash VIN.

 

The Tread...............Its Alive! lol. As noted all 68 and on cars have to have dash vin. This is legal vin. Your car can be impounded if it is missing. No one is legally making vin besides the state dmvs (I have heard rumors someone is doing it but it is not legal to do it) . State issued vins look nothing like original vin and lots of times have different numbers depending on state you live in. State issued vin de-values most higher dollar mustangs.

 

Also, someone suggested to me that maybe it could be a dealer option, after the fact?

 

People (and dealerships) started adding GT accoutrements to non-factory GT cars since day one, but that doesn't make it an original GT or give it the value that entails.

 

Under the fenders, on the inner fender tops.

 

You can repair a damaged or faded plate. More often, they are simply under the dash pad, shoved there by a careless mechanic while installing the dash pad.

 

Contact these guys, document the car, you can get a new dash tag...

Tags Backeast, Trim Tags Backeast, Data Plates, A.G.Backeast. We make tags for AMC, Buick, Cadillac, Camaro, Chevelle, Chevrolet, Chrysler, Corvette, Dodge, DeSoto, Edsel, Ford, Frazer, La Salle, Henry J, Kaiser, Lincoln, Mercury, Mustang, Oldsmobile

 

I see nowhere on that site where they even mention a VIN tag.

 

I see nowhere on that site where they even mention a VIN tag.

Re-read the post... it says "CONTACT" them... they will ask a lot of questions and provide an answer based on specifics.


And replacing a damaged or missing VIN tag is not automatically illegal, "internet expert" views aside...